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15 Re: Chapter Black on Sat May 20, 2017 2:51 pm

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16 Re: Chapter Black on Sat May 20, 2017 3:13 pm

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finna crack down on this one.

i'm aware that blah blah blah no mass. it's called balancing for rp purposes.

you're not going to be allowed to just manip electromagnetic fields of everything cuz everything has one off rip.

You're going to need a skill that charges objects and strengthens they're electromagnetic field to a degree that allows you to manipulate them. This will only be the case for non-metal, so u can't walk into a topic and auto w.e. someone, unless they were a cyborg at least.

Note somewhere, maybe weaknesses, that the strength of your manipulation on objects is equal to the tier of the skill. I'd consider making a passive that boost this by one tier. This means if u did get a grip on a PC if u use a t3 skill to manip them, if they had t3 strength, they could overpower the manipulation, albeit they'd perform at a lower level of strength and speed. (swap out that last Lvl 1 passive cuz it's basically a skill.) something like this being a lvl 2 passive.


Nico Moretti wrote:Priority: Primary
Fighting Style: Devil Fruit
Skill Set Name: -
Skill Set Information: Electromagnetism is one of the Four Fundamental Forces of the Universe - encompassing all electrical and magnetic phenomena. The Electromagnetism Devil Fruit is a Paramecia type devil fruit that gives the user domain over these phenomena. Most notably, this devil fruit grants the ability to create, control, and manipulate electromagnetic waves. An electromagnetic field is the field produced by objects that are charged electrically. Radio waves, infrared waves, Ultraviolet waves, and x-rays are all electromagnetic fields in a certain range of frequency. Electricity is produced by the changing of magnetic field. The phenomenon is also called "electromagnetic induction." Similarly, the magnetic fields are produced by motion of electric charges. Electromagnetism is both electricity and magnetic energy; with electricity affecting magnetism just as magnetism affects electricity. A few minor examples of practical uses would be: being able to attract, repel, and manipulate metals, damaging and or affecting electronics (short circuiting, memory wiping, impromptu reprogramming), and sensing and manipulating electromagnetic fields given off by himself and other sources.

Passives:

  • Lvl 3: Electric Boogaloo - Nico gains a +1 tier of speed.
  • Lvl 1: Nico is able to passively sense all electromagnetic and magnetic fields around him, how they move, anything that moves/disturbs them, and what within range may or may not be influenced or manipulated by these fields - allowing him to be completely in tune with the electromagnetic spectrum and the ability to interpret the various ranges of energy. A 10m diameter is the range of this passive sensing.
  • Lvl 1: Nico is able to manipulate electromagnetic and/or magnetic fields and waves within his vicinity. This manipulation fields covers up to a 10 meter diameter - costing Nico 10 stamina per instance. Examples of said manipulation include changing the charge of a field, condensing or expansion of a wave or field, manipulating a field to control an object that falls within it's realm of control, and etc. Operates on a t1 level.

Links to Purchase of Passives: Link Link Link
Skillset Strengths:

  • Also has the ability to manipulate and control any and all types of magnetic and electromagnetic fields.
  • Is able to use his electromagnetic abilities to generate electricity .

Skillset Weaknesses:

  • If simply using magnetism instead of electromagnetism to control a metal object, Nico's control of said object can be slightly disrupted due to super-heating, causing manipulated objects to move at one speed tier lower than normal when manipulated
  • Electricity created by his devil fruit may become weaker if facing a material or object that can resist it.
  • Standard DF Weaknesses

Notes:
Attribute Priorities:

  • Primary Attribute: Speed
  • Secondary Attribute: Perception
  • Non-Prioritized Attributes: Durability and Strength


Ship Examples and Manipulation Guide:
This details the weight limits for objects that Nico can effect and control, how much pressure he can exert, and some examples of structures his skills and passive can effect at what tier. (Nico's manipulation passive scales on this list depending on what tier the passive is. Example: Tier 1 passive manipulation only ranks as tier 1 on this list.)

  • 100lb T1 -
  • 200lb T2 - Rowboats
  • 300lb T3 - Floops (w.e. that first one says) - Barque
  • 500lb T4 - Galleon, Frigate, Typical Submarines
  • 600lb T5 - Man of War & Ship of the Line
  • 750lb T6 -



Material Destruction:

Tier 1:
Completely Destroyed - Stone, Wood, etc
Partially Destroyed - N/A
Lightly Damaged - Iron

Tier 2:
Completely Destroyed - Stone, Wood, etc
Partially Destroyed - Iron
Lightly Damaged - Steel

Tier 3:
Completely Destroyed - Iron, Stone, Wood, etc
Partially Destroyed - Steel
Lightly Damaged - N/A

Tier 4:
Completely Destroyed - Steel, Iron, Stone, Wood, etc
Partially Destroyed - N/A
Lightly Damaged - Titanium

Tier 5:
Completely Destroyed - Steel, Iron, Stone, Wood, etc
Partially Destroyed - Titanium
Lightly Damaged - N/A

Tier 6:
Completely Destroyed - Titanium, Steel, Iron, Stone, Wood, and etc
Partially Destroyed - N/A
Lightly Damaged - Diamond


Tier 1 Skills:

Skill Name: - Hotline Bling
Tier: - 1
Type - Utility
Range: - N/A
Speed: - N/A
Description: - By tapping into the frequency that Den Den Mushi's make use of when contacting one another, Nico is able to make use of this skill to contact a a Den Den Mushi that he's previously come in contact with before (given that he'd need to know the specific frequency of the Den Den in order to contact it). This also means that Nico has his own specific frequency that allows him to receive calls as well (this also requires that he's been in contact with the Den Den Mushi in question before).  

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Tier: -
Type -
Range: -
Speed: -
Description: -

Tier 2 Skills:

Skill Name: -
Tier: -
Type -
Range: -
Speed: -
Description: -

Skill Name: -
Tier: -
Type -
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Description: -

Tier 3 Skills:

Skill Name: - Riot
Tier: - 3
Type - Normal/Sustained
Range: - 50m diameter 45m
Speed: - 6 4
Description: - Nico is able to manipulate electromagnetic and/or magnetic fields and waves within his vicinity in order to fully control physical matter around him. This area of manipulation covers a 50 meter diameter - allowing him the ability to control a maximum of 10 objects at a time.

Skill Name: -
Tier: -
Type -
Range: -
Speed: -
Description: -

Tier 4 Skills:

Skill Name: - Flow  
Tier: - 4
Type - Normal/Sustained
Range: - 75m diameter
Speed: - 7 5
Description: - With this skill, Nico is able to manipulate electromagnetic and/or magnetic fields and waves within his vicinity. This manipulation covers up to a 75 meter diameter area around him - allowing him to either condense or stretch these fields and waves. The pressure and/or tension he can place on them is listed in the "manipulation guide" at the corresponding tier.

Skill Name: - Lights Out
Tier: - 4
Type - Normal
Range: - 75m diameter
Speed: - 7 5
Description: -An electromagnetic pulse (EMP), also sometimes called a transient electromagnetic disturbance, is a short burst of electromagnetic energy. By letting off a high energy electromagnetic burst, Nico is able to fry all technological devices within an 100 meter radius of himself. contradicting ranges, go with 100m diameter and the technology has to have an amount of upgrade points that equal to or above this skill's tier.

Tier 5 Skills:

Skill Name: - Disappear
Tier: - 5
Type - Normal/Sustained
Range: - Self
Speed: - N/A
Description: - Making use of the same premise as his "Vanish" technique, albeit on entirely smaller scale, Nico is able to negate the electrical fields that bind all the atoms of physical matter together - causing the disintegration of the matter. However, unlike his Vanish skill, "Disappear" can only be activated once Nico and the matter in question have made physical contact. only erases matter in direct contact with you?

Skill Name: -Rewire
Tier: - 5
Type - Normal
Range: - 75m diameter  
Speed: - 7 6
Description: - By precisely manipulating electromagnetic fields, as well as electricity, Nico is able is able to reprogram and manipulate all technological constructs, computers, robots, cyborgs, hardware and other devices that can be termed as "technology", if they happen to fall within a 75m diameter. This reprogramming and manipulation allows Nico to mentally interface with said technology, causing them to completely follow his instructions - or even the ability to engage or disengage their programming at will. This skill only works on technology that five or less upgrade points, and a maximum of fifteen pieces of technology can be "rewired" in a single usage.
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Tier 6 Skills:

Skill Name: - Vanish
Tier: - 6
Type - Normal
Range: - 100m diameter
Speed: - 7 6
Description: - Every atom in existence is bound by an electrical field, and with this technique Nico is able to negate this electrical field entirely. This leads to a removal of any form of structure - reducing any object into dust, the dust into atoms, and atoms into nothing. Nico makes use of this negation through use of his ability to manipulate and control electromagnetic fields, allowing him to completely strip these electrical fields from all physical matter within 100m diameter - reducing everything (with the exception of himself, and physical matter that resides on his being) to nothing. gonna need a charge time of at least 1 post on this skill, since it's a blatant "lol I win skill" which obviously isn't fair in rp terms.


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17 Re: Chapter Black on Sat May 20, 2017 6:19 pm

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Okay, I don't have any problem with a majority of the things you've asked for - and i'll make those edits accordingly. However, I'm still lost on how reducing the speeds for my skillset actually balances anything - especially when every other fruit is able to use their defined speeds. For example, I can look at the sound fruit and see Tier 1 skills that are rated at Tier 5 speeds simply because it's the sound fruit - even though the primary attribute for the skillset is Durability.

This doesn't make any sense, unless it means that all of these skills are allowed to move at these speeds simply because it's a sound logia and sound moves at Tier 5 on this site. The same thing applies to the Light logia - I'm seeing skills that all move at Tier 7 speeds simply because it's the light logia. Light itself is an oscillating electric and magnetic field, but like you mentioned before, you apparently already know the "blah blah blah no mass" argument. Yet, despite that, you're going to drop some of my skills to tier 4 speeds? How is that balancing? Dropping my speeds to those levels completely take away entirely from the basic principles of the fruit - it's no longer electromagnetism. In all actuality, I have more backing me as to why my skills should be able to move at Tier 7 than the Sound logia has to explain why every skill should be at a default Tier 5. Sound has to move through a medium in order to propagate, my fruit doesn't. I've even got the fact that speed is my primary attribute in the skillset, and I can't even hit Tier 7 speeds with a Tier 6 skill? C'mon now.

Now, if the argument is the amount of things that are possible with the fruit, then that still doesn't make any sense - given the huge amount of things that are also possible with those two logias outside of simple speed boosts. Generating heat, shock waves, creating silenced environments, disorienting people, auditory hallucinations, hypnotism, and etc are all multiple ways that sound can be used - yet, it doesn't suffer a dock to the speed of its skills.


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18 Re: Chapter Black on Sat May 20, 2017 8:47 pm

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Nico Moretti wrote:Okay, I don't have any problem with a majority of the things you've asked for - and i'll make those edits accordingly. However, I'm still lost on how reducing the speeds for my skillset actually balances anything - especially when every other fruit is able to use their defined speeds. For example, I can look at the sound fruit and see Tier 1 skills that are rated at Tier 5 speeds simply because it's the sound fruit - even though the primary attribute for the skillset is Durability. i know the circumstances r the same since we're talking set speeds, but don't compare fruits to each other. that argument is dead and gets no one, no where.

This doesn't make any sense, unless it means that all of these skills are allowed to move at these speeds simply because it's a sound logia and sound moves at Tier 5 on this site. The same thing applies to the Light logia - I'm seeing skills that all move at Tier 7 speeds simply because it's the light logia. Light itself is an oscillating electric and magnetic field, but like you mentioned before, you apparently already know the "blah blah blah no mass" argument. Yet, despite that, you're going to drop some of my skills to tier 4 speeds? How is that balancing? Dropping my speeds to those levels completely take away entirely from the basic principles of the fruit - it's no longer electromagnetism. In all actuality, I have more backing me as to why my skills should be able to move at Tier 7 than the Sound logia has to explain why every skill should be at a default Tier 5. Sound has to move through a medium in order to propagate, my fruit doesn't. I've even got the fact that speed is my primary attribute in the skillset, and I can't even hit Tier 7 speeds with a Tier 6 skill? C'mon now.

Now, if the argument is the amount of things that are possible with the fruit, then that still doesn't make any sense - given the huge amount of things that are also possible with those two logias outside of simple speed boosts. Generating heat, shock waves, creating silenced environments, disorienting people, auditory hallucinations, hypnotism, and etc are all multiple ways that sound can be used - yet, it doesn't suffer a dock to the speed of its skills. reason is because ur fruit has a larger range of power. and in exchange for that larger range of power, for balancing purposes, you're going to be slowed down. Do your powers make sense, yes, but does that mean ur gonna get auto t7 everything no. We have to take into account that it has to actually be something people can combat, not just "these are my powers, give me everything how it should be and fuck anyone trynna fight me".

If we wanna compare fruits, Light can be seen and as shown in canon effectively countered against with appropriate haki because it can be seen with how it is being used on this site. Electromagnetic waves on the other hand cannot. So you basically have insta kill non-seeable attacks which offer no balance whatsoever. Laz even made some of his sound attacks visible.


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19 Re: Chapter Black on Thu May 25, 2017 5:54 pm

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20 Re: Chapter Black on Sat May 27, 2017 6:41 pm

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Skill Name: - Lights Out
Tier: - 4
Type - Normal
Range: - 100m diameter
Speed: - 5
Description: -An electromagnetic pulse (EMP), also sometimes called a transient electromagnetic disturbance, is a short burst of electromagnetic energy. By letting off a high energy electromagnetic burst, Nico is able to fry all technological devices within an 100 meter radius of himself. This skill effects technology that's rated with a number of upgrade points that are less than or equal to the tier of this skill.

change radius to diameter.

for the last skill note stamina isn't expended until the skill is released and you yourself can't exceed speed tier 4 during this one post charge.


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23 Re: Chapter Black on Mon May 29, 2017 2:48 pm

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24 Re: Chapter Black on Mon May 29, 2017 3:41 pm

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For the T1 skill, I think you would need to put that you are in a certain range to get into the frequency of the Den Den that you know.

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Edited and specified that I must have been in "physical contact" with the Den Den Mushi in question.


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26 Re: Chapter Black on Mon May 29, 2017 4:05 pm

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